An interview with
artist Glenda Green, who, during a four-month visit by the
Master Jesus, learned about Love as she painted His portrait.
Fort Worth, Texas, USA
Glenda Green is an internationally recognized portrait
painter and art historian. In 1989, her husband had a dream
that Glenda was to paint a portrait of Jesus Christ. The
possibility intrigued her, but it took nearly two years
before she decided to undertake such a painting. After months
of study, research, and contemplation, she felt frustrated as
to how to proceed. She prayed in her studio for guidance.
Glenda describes what
happened next: "At that moment, a presence
entered the room unlike any Ive ever experienced ...
Although He was transparent, there was a radiant glow, and He
displaced the air so conspicuously that I could see currents
of pressure-waves rippling about eight feet in front of me.
Was it the Holy Spirit ... or perhaps a special angel? ...
later experiences and insights were to reveal that it was the
Master Himself, in pure spiritual form.
"The Presence called my name, though in no
human words I know, and then shot a beam of energy from
Himself to a point between my eyes. I presume He implanted
something into my optic nerve, for a radiant picture
projected before my eyes. It was an exact visual prototype of
the painting to be done.... "From that moment forward,
my life has not been the same, not even in the smallest way
... After that, the events of every day unfolded perfectly as
they should, and each hour of work was a living dialogue with
Glenda Greens book, Love
Without End: Jesus Speaks*, is the result of the
Master Jesuss four-month visit to her studio in Fort
Worth, Texas. Glenda was interviewed by Share
International co-worker Betsy Whitfill.
From 23 November 1991 until 12 March 1992, the
Master Jesus appeared to you in your studio so that you could
paint His picture. Could you describe the experience of
having Jesus visit you?
Glenda Green: It was amazingly
comfortable. Prior to this, I had thought that being in the
presence of Divinity, or in a higher realm, I would feel
inadequate or unworthy, conditioned as I was by the various
dogmas of the Earth. I was surprised at how much the Master
extended Himself to make it OK for me to be exactly who I am,
and what I am. We talked about sacred things and ordinary
things, and He seemed to express an equal interest in
anything that interested me. There was not only an absence of
judgement, but also an absence of any predisposition to
judgement. This is the most important thing to communicate.
There was nothing too insignificant for Him to deal with,
nothing too major for Him to reveal.
SI: Jesus spoke to you a
great deal about love. What is love and why is it so
GG: Love is what, literally,
makes the world go round. It is what created the world. Love
was the first manifestation of existence, prior to which was
simply the unknowable. Of all things that can be known, love
is the ultimate and the primary. It exists on the cusp
between the unknowable and the knowable. Love cannot be
defined. It is the definer, coexisting with the Creator and
all creative forces. Therefore, it is the closest thing,
within the knowable, to the power of existence. It is a
proto-energy that which motivates things into being
SI: You wrote that Jesus
urged that people "be love". Why is it so
GG: Because people confuse
love with attachments. This is why the Masters, through the
ages, have focused on releasing attachments as a primary mode
to ascendancy and soul fulfillment. Its not that we are
to disattach in order to live in poverty, or to have nothing,
to have no gratification of the senses or no experience of
desire. The root meaning of desire is "of God".
Without desire for the higher life, you dont reach the
higher life. The only reason to conquer desire is to conquer
the association between love and attachments.
SI: Jesus talked to you
about the mind and its structure-creating capacity obscuring
love. Could you explain?
GG: The mind is binary, as is
any computer. It is a recorder of data; it integrates data
and makes comparisons. This enables us to evaluate and make
choices, but the mind builds polarity in thinking. Love is
the great primal integrator which sees the oneness of things.
The mind is a powerful and valuable servant. The Master never
diminished the importance of developing ones
intelligence through education. But because the mind is
binary, it has to be a servant. That which is primary is
singular. The heart is the hub of the wheel of life
the singular point, and love resides in the awareness of
singularity, through which we can comprehend unity.
Singularity and unity have to be proprietary to be
above binary considerations.
Structure can be created by
anything, from Divinity to the lowest motivation for
survival. It is just an organizational pattern for purposes
of predictability and order in life. Thats all. You
have to know where to place structure in your life. You must
realize that it is derivative. Structure doesnt create
anything; it is a created form. Just as the mind is
secondary, being binary, structure appropriately placed is a
derivative form. Even original Creation, as structure, is
derivative. God preceded the Cosmos.
SI: Jesus spoke to you
about economics, saying that "structure creates the
illusion that expansion is the only route to power and
glory," and that "collapse occurs when nations
over-extend, over-specialize and prevent natural cycles of
compression". Is this relevant to todays world
GG: Yes. We have expanded so
far away from natural order that well have to
reconnect, compress, willingly or through collapse.
Historically, it has happened time and again to great
civilizations. This great principle lies at the back of
everything. We can avoid the pain of this coming collapse by
intentional compression. Jesus stressed this. If everyone who
can do so gracefully initiates the process, we increase the
ratio of probability that the entire world can do it.
SI: You wrote that sharing
leads to prosperity for everyone. Could you enlarge on this?
GG: It is such a simple,
self-evident principle, its hard to enlarge on it. We
build walls to protect our proprietary stuff ideas
and/or property. These walls eventually cut us off from
receiving. An idea which served me well five years ago may
not necessarily nourish me today. Had I shared my idea years
ago, I would have new ideas coming back to me today. The
proprietary concept must be as fluid as is life if it is to
SI: As individuals we may
be able to understand sharing to some extent, but on national
and international levels there tends to be resistance. Did
Jesus have any suggestions?
GG: The Masters
definition of morality is change for the better. Some nations
are locked into their history and are unwilling to see a
future which brings change for the better. But there are
things on the horizon which will make life so much better
than anything existing in history, that the clutching hand of
the baby will eventually let go of its candy.
SI: What do you see on the
GG: One thing would be the new
science, and another international communications (Internet)
which are so free and so fresh that people can have a sense
of liberty without having to pack up and leave their homes or
countries. When freedom becomes an option for everyone,
youll find it to be an irresistible commodity.
SI: Jesus also told you
that "So much love energy is being poured on the Earth
now, it will shatter some needless structures." Love
GG: From three sources. One is
Divinity itself, because the will of God is that the greatest
good be done. Another source is from all beings who have
arrived at Christed levels of awareness, who are radiating
tremendous amounts of love. The third source will actually
account for the crash thats about to happen, but this
collapse will not be externally engineered.
Throughout the history of
human evolution we have been building structures more to
compensate for our unconsciousness than our consciousness. We
have governments and military to keep the tigers out, not to
manage what we have. However, during the long evolution of
consciousness, we have been increasing in awareness. Now we
are at the point where our consciousness exceeds our
unconsciousness. This consciousness will itself destroy the
structures which unconsciousness has built to deal with the
unknown. It is a natural evolutionary process. The Master
said that is why it has been predicted by every race of man,
every religion throughout time. I would call it humanitarian
love, the ability to do the greater good regardless of the
price. We will choose the greater, and the lesser will
disappear. I think were virtually there now, but
everything ebbs and flows.
SI: Is this the "great
healing" Jesus told you is to come?
SI: Do you think the
imminence of this transformation influenced the timing of
Jesuss visit to you?
GG: Yes. I think the whole
message was intended to expedite this process for those who
can benefit from His reinforcement.
SI: Did He say anything
about His return?
GG: Not really. I did ask if
He would be coming back soon. He said: "Soon, but not in
the framework that others would see for me."
SI: Since Jesus is Teacher
for the Christian Church, what message did He have for modern
GG: I did not notice any
difference between His words to me and His ancient words to
the Earth except that there was clarification. Traditional
Christianity is not, for the most part, operating from His
words but from the dogma imposed on His words. Hes very
pragmatic and to Him there is nothing more practical than
living a spiritual life. He sees no separation between the
physical and spiritual. The souls fulfillment is not
different from fulfillment of a human life.
When we understand where
structure belongs, well rise above competing dogmas.
Dogma is just intellectual structure. Thats why He
said: "When you know the truth, the truth will set you
free." People erected dogma to compensate for what they
did not understand, to complement their ignorance not their
wisdom. A study of comparative religions shows that all
religions create dogma, and that is the difference between
them. Their wisdom is all the same.
SI: Did Jesus refer to any
of the great Teachers, like the Buddha?
GG: Only once. He said:
"The reason I am here is to assist you in knowing the
Father. If you worship Me and know not the Father, then
youve taken the wrong pathway." So you can see
what has happened. At that moment I wondered if this would
also be true for Buddhists, Muslims, Hindus and others, and
He said: "If you know the Buddha in order to know the
Father, then you are not lost. If you know the Buddha only to
know the Buddha, then youve taken the wrong
SI: What is the most
important thing Jesus told you, and how did it change your
GG: Speaking personally, He
helped me transcend my persona and restore my relationship
with my Source/Creator. I feel a greater connection to
everyone and everything. As a consequence, I am able to do
SI: As you travel around
speaking, how are audiences responding?
GG: Believe it or not,
Ive been invited to give the Sunday service, in the
pulpit, to more than 20 Christian denominations and other
non-denominational churches. People respond tremendously
well. Ive spoken to New Age groups, but they are wary
of my introducing dogma. Once they know the breadth of the
message, theres a tremendous response.
SI: What are your future
GG: Ill be writing two
more books. The Workbook will assist in a deeper
understanding and will allow me to bring in other aspects of
this message. The other book, called Gunnar Glow Star, The
Cat Who Saw Christ, will be for the child in us all, to
distil the pure essence of the message from innocent
perception. Ill be doing seminars to help others
develop the work. There are study groups forming now around
the country, which I think are very important.
Quotes from the
Master Jesus in Glenda Greens book, Love
without end: Jesus speaks:
those who live in moderation, for they shall inherit
the earth. Moderation is the economy of God and the
economy of blessing.... As Heaven comes to Earth, the
standard of economy will be that of moderation. It
will not be necessary for one person to hoard and
another to starve. Sharing will become a joy as you
learn that everything you share will become the basis
of your own receiving."
heart is in the proper relationship to God, and the
master of ones life, then charity occurs as a
natural aspect of sharing."
"There are no
structures that cannot be superseded by love."
the heart of living. It is what makes life bearable,
meaningful and delicious."
the instrument of all evil."
asked in love, or honoring love, will be answered,
although your Father has no covenant to answer the
prayers of your ego, to solve its self-made problems,
or to make its fictions result in happiness. Your
Creator is one with reality, so how can He answer a
prayer that seeks further separation from the love
and the reality that He is? Even if He were willing,
how could He? When you pray to be strengthened in
your understanding of reality and your competence
with it, your every prayer will be answered and often
realization of love restored can come in a thousand
ways ... a peaceful heart, a dance step in your walk,
a childs kiss, or a glistening spring morning.
What it universally means is that the love of God is
present. If love appears to vanish for a while do not
worry: it only seems that way, so that you will seek
it again. Love is a mystery the greatest
mystery of the universe. Love is your true Self,
which springs forth from God, the indefinable
everlasting fountain of existence. There is no
explaining what or who will ignite the fire of love
within you. There is also no explaining how you, in
turn, may light the fire of another."
infinity every day, and all that you seek shall be
given to you."
Without End: Jesus Speaks, by
Glenda Green, Heartwings Publishing, PO Box 14251, Fort
Worth, Texas 76117, USA.
painting of Jesus, "The Lamb and the Lion", has
been placed in a church in Fort Worth, Texas, run by The
Christ Truth League, a non-denominational Christian
organization. The church is open everyday to all people.
From the September 1999 issue of Share
Betsy Whitfill is a
correspondent from the US, and coordinator of the Share
International Media Service.
Courtesy of Share